{"id":39202,"date":"2025-01-28T16:18:30","date_gmt":"2025-01-28T16:18:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/thorin-on-how-csgo-can-learn-from-fortnite-i-think-it-could-be-twice-as-big-dexerto\/"},"modified":"2025-01-28T16:18:30","modified_gmt":"2025-01-28T16:18:30","slug":"thorin-on-how-csgo-can-learn-from-fortnite-i-think-it-could-be-twice-as-big-dexerto","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/thorin-on-how-csgo-can-learn-from-fortnite-i-think-it-could-be-twice-as-big-dexerto\/","title":{"rendered":"Thorin on How CS:GO Can Learn from Fortnite: \u201cI think it could be twice as big\u201d &#8211; Dexerto"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thorin on How CS:GO Can Learn from Fortnite: \u201cI think it could be twice as big\u201d Epic Games \/ StarLadderDuncan \u2018Thorin\u2019 Shields has discussed the recent Fortnite Battle Royale phenomenon and what Counter-Strike: Global Offensive can take from it going forward. Fortnite Battle Royale has undoubtedly taken the world by storm in 2018 and has quickly become one of the most popular games in history. There are, of course, numerous factors that have contributed to the title\u2019s incredible growth, but many people would point to the ease of access as being the most important one. Available to play on PC, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, iOS, Nintendo Switch, and soon on Android, Fortnite can be enjoyed on just about any platform imaginable. Add to that the fact that it is free to play and it is clear that Epic Games is on to a winner. CS:GO is also one of the biggest games on the planet, and has one of the largest esports communities to boot, but many casual gamers have often lamented the steep learning curve and hardcore element of the game when trying to get into it. During a recent episode of \u201cBy The Numbers\u201d, Thorin and Richard Lewis raised the question of whether CS:GO should consider moving to the \u201cfree to play\u201d model and whether adding some more casual elements could boost the player count. Thorin first explained why only having the most hardcore version of a game can hurt it in the long run: \u201cThey didn\u2019t learn the lesson of StarCraft 2, which is that a normal casual player doesn\u2019t want to play a mimicked version of what you\u2019re playing in the fucking Grand Final of a Major. They don\u2019t want to do that. It would be like if I could only in my entire life have ever played football by having to get 11 players and play on a regulation size pitch and play 90 minutes with an official referee there. I\u2019d have never played football.\u201d The \u201cEsports Historian\u201d went on to detail just how difficult it can be for new CS:GO players to enjoy a game with their friends that already play the game and how this effectively stops any form of \u201csnowball effect\u201d happening. He details how Fortnite\u2019s ease of access makes it the perfect candidate for friends of friends to all end up playing the game through little more than word of mouth and says that a similar model could have do the same for CS:GO: \u201cI\u2019ve experienced it literally directly in my life own life. Where you get a player that\u2019s just started out and they\u2019re like \u2018oh I\u2019ll play CS with you\u2019, and you\u2019re like \u2018well actually mate, you can\u2019t. Like, basically I\u2019d have to get three other people since our ranks aren\u2019t the same [\u2026] [\u2026] You\u2019ll never get the snowball effect there of having like the Fortnite type numbers of players because here\u2019s the thing: don\u2019t think that Fortnite made that happen. What happens is you make a good game, you hopefully set up a lot of good conditions, and then whether it becomes a phenomenon like that is that\u2019s like a social snowball, you know? That\u2019s like, the reason you aren\u2019t directly affecting that is because that\u2019s like a friend of a friend of a friend got someone into the game and that\u2019s so many people deep that you didn\u2019t have any direct connection to the guy that then starts playing the game [\u2026] [\u2026] I think it [Counter-Strike] could be twice as big [as it is now] if you add a legit easy way to get into the game, a way to try the game, and then a casual way to play the game.\u201d The entire discussion starts at around the 57 minute mark of the video and is an interesting take on both Counter-Strike and Fortnite from community members that have been around for longer than most of us have known what esports was. 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Fortnite Battle Royale has undoubtedly taken the world by storm in 2018 and has [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39202","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39202","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=39202"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39202\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=39202"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=39202"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=39202"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}