{"id":54525,"date":"2025-01-28T18:16:37","date_gmt":"2025-01-28T18:16:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/ludwig-blasts-degenerate-trainwrecks-gambling-defends-his-poker-ad-streams-dexerto\/"},"modified":"2025-01-28T18:16:37","modified_gmt":"2025-01-28T18:16:37","slug":"ludwig-blasts-degenerate-trainwrecks-gambling-defends-his-poker-ad-streams-dexerto","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/2025\/01\/28\/ludwig-blasts-degenerate-trainwrecks-gambling-defends-his-poker-ad-streams-dexerto\/","title":{"rendered":"Ludwig blasts \u201cdegenerate\u201d Trainwrecks gambling &#038; defends his poker ad streams &#8211; Dexerto"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ludwig blasts \u201cdegenerate\u201d Trainwrecks gambling &#038; defends his poker ad streams Twitch: Ludwig, trainwreckstvAs the debate around Twitch gambling streams grows ever bigger, Ludwig has had his say on the matter, hitting out at creators like Trainwrecks\u2019 \u201cdegenerate\u201d streams but defending some of his own past broadcasts in the process. Gambling has become super common on Twitch, with streamers earning millions of dollars from brands looking to promote their product. As such, we\u2019ve seen many creators winning or losing thousands, if not millions, through their gambling streams, though this is often not their own money but the companies. This has drawn a lot of criticism from both fans and peers, with even the likes of Pokimane speaking out against these streams and how they might affect impressionable younger viewers. Ludwig sent a tweet to Trainwrecks, asking whether he understands that \u201cthey pay you at least 1 million\/monthly because they receive a return from your viewers?\u201d @Trainwreckstv do you get that they pay you at least 1 million\/monthly cause they receive a return from your viewers? trust capitalism to make money not give it away and admitting that is fine but people will think you&#8217;re a POS even if it&#8217;s as &#8220;&#8221;good&#8221;&#8221; as you can do it \u2014 ludwig (@LudwigAhgren) July 21, 2021 When fellow streamer LosPollosTV tried comparing it to Ludwig\u2019s Pokemon card opening streams, he wasn\u2019t having any of it. \u201cThe Pokemon Company did not give me $1 million to open cards,\u201d he said. \u201cI\u2019ll do ur hw [homework] for you because you didn\u2019t \u2014 I did a sponsored poker stream that you were literally in.\u201d yeah sorry ill explain the pokemon company did not give me $1 million to open cards ill do ur hw for you cause you didnt- I did a sponsored poker stream that you were literally in maybe that will make you feel better about taking that gambling sponsorship you were offered \u2014 ludwig (@LudwigAhgren) July 22, 2021 LosPollos then says that if Pokemon had offered him $1m, he would definitely accept. He also added that \u201ceither way, you promoted gambling whether it\u2019s the Pok\u00e9mon cards I lost thousands on or the poker stream we did.\u201d Ludwig argued then that the poker stream was different because \u201cpoker is a skill game,\u201d but that \u201cgetting paid to punt thousands of dollars in minutes with a slot machine (0 skill game) is degenerate.\u201d Everyone has a different line of morality. I think poker is a skill game people that I really enjoy and accept promoting gambling I think getting paid to punt thousands of dollars in minutes with a slot machine (0 skill game) is degenerate we don&#8217;t gotta be the same \u2014 ludwig (@LudwigAhgren) July 22, 2021 There\u2019s definitely a whole lot of nuance in the debate, as shown by Ludwig\u2019s promotion of poker streams, but he clearly sees the two as very different. It\u2019s unclear what kind of effect gambling streams are having on the creators\u2019 viewers, but many top channels are standing firmly against them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ludwig blasts \u201cdegenerate\u201d Trainwrecks gambling &#038; defends his poker ad streams Twitch: Ludwig, trainwreckstvAs the debate around Twitch gambling streams grows ever bigger, Ludwig has had his say on the matter, hitting out at creators like Trainwrecks\u2019 \u201cdegenerate\u201d streams but defending some of his own past broadcasts in the process. Gambling has become super common [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-54525","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54525","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=54525"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/54525\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=54525"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=54525"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dejan.au\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=54525"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}